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		<title>By: The History of WordPress &#124; Learning from Lorelle</title>
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		<title>By: Sites Thursday, 2 December 2010-Live Essentials update available-Help for Live Spacers-Holiday photos made easy-New Win7 themes-Xbox LIVE Rewards begins &#171; webDotWiz talks Windows Live</title>
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		<title>By: Windows Live Spaces Blog Migration to WordPress V2 &#171; The Field Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Windows Live Spaces Blog Migration to WordPress V2 &#171; The Field Guide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thom McKiernan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thom McKiernan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@beverley In regards to slideshows, you can upload photos to picasa and embed them on googles blogging site.
There are also options for hosting slideshows on wordpress.com as shown n their FAQ here &gt; http://en.support.wordpress.com/slideshows/
Apparently you can also use something called VodPod to show any flash content on your wordpress blog. I haven&#039;t used it myself but this blog shows you it works http://geekycoder.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/comiqs-testing123/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@beverley In regards to slideshows, you can upload photos to picasa and embed them on googles blogging site.<br />
There are also options for hosting slideshows on wordpress.com as shown n their FAQ here &gt; <a href="http://en.support.wordpress.com/slideshows/" rel="nofollow">http://en.support.wordpress.com/slideshows/</a><br />
Apparently you can also use something called VodPod to show any flash content on your wordpress blog. I haven&#8217;t used it myself but this blog shows you it works <a href="http://geekycoder.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/comiqs-testing123/" rel="nofollow">http://geekycoder.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/comiqs-testing123/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@beverley: It&#039;s sad you didn&#039;t start with WordPress to begin with. Hundreds of thousands of non-profits use it. CNN, Ford, Forbes, People, and the NY Times also use it, so they must know something, and it ain&#039;t just for bloggers. 

Possibly you might be able to import your slide shows into something like SlideShare which would open things up even wider than just on your site. If you want to use the full version of WordPress on a hosted site, there are a ton of options including slideshow, gallery, and other features that would work for you. Without knowing more, I and others can&#039;t help you. Luckily, you have five months or so to play around and run test drives before you have to move off of Windows Live Spaces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@beverley: It&#8217;s sad you didn&#8217;t start with WordPress to begin with. Hundreds of thousands of non-profits use it. CNN, Ford, Forbes, People, and the NY Times also use it, so they must know something, and it ain&#8217;t just for bloggers. </p>
<p>Possibly you might be able to import your slide shows into something like SlideShare which would open things up even wider than just on your site. If you want to use the full version of WordPress on a hosted site, there are a ton of options including slideshow, gallery, and other features that would work for you. Without knowing more, I and others can&#8217;t help you. Luckily, you have five months or so to play around and run test drives before you have to move off of Windows Live Spaces.</p>
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		<title>By: beverley</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 00:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you bloggers are all so happy.  I used modules and set up some really good websites for a number of my nonprofit associates.  It included slide shows of the functions we had to donate money to needy causes.  This migration has totally destroyed them.  The modules and slide shows were integral to the sharing we had as volunteer agencies and all the people who were associated.  Thousands.  Unfortunately Windows live had an eas, great module wedbsite builder, that I can&#039;t find anywhere else. I&#039;m struggling on some other sites.  Word Press is for bloggers.  I&#039;m glad you&#039;re all happy. But if anyone can point me to a site that will do all that for us I would appreciate it.  Again we are nonprofit, spaces live worked for us and now it&#039;s all going away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you bloggers are all so happy.  I used modules and set up some really good websites for a number of my nonprofit associates.  It included slide shows of the functions we had to donate money to needy causes.  This migration has totally destroyed them.  The modules and slide shows were integral to the sharing we had as volunteer agencies and all the people who were associated.  Thousands.  Unfortunately Windows live had an eas, great module wedbsite builder, that I can&#8217;t find anywhere else. I&#8217;m struggling on some other sites.  Word Press is for bloggers.  I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re all happy. But if anyone can point me to a site that will do all that for us I would appreciate it.  Again we are nonprofit, spaces live worked for us and now it&#8217;s all going away.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@st185cs: Live ID is proprietary to Microsoft. OpenID is used on WordPress.com, I believe, but I&#039;m not sure if it would do what you wish. It really isn&#039;t up to Microsoft to provide an alternative. They came to WordPress.com (nothing to do - sorta - with WordPress.org BTW) and said they liked what WordPress.com had done and wanted to offer their members this as an alternative. For the majority of users (not the ones who publicly complain), this a very feasible alternative to what they were doing with Live Spaces. For those, like yourself, with more coding experience, blogging experience, and clearly a dedicated reason to host your own blog or control your blog experience, you can choose from any of the many alternatives, of which Blogger is just one. There has been an increase over the past few years of those on Blogger migrating to WordPress.com for a variety of reasons, especially with the poor service, worm and hacking issues, and other frustrations. It isn&#039;t about which is better as much as what works for you  - and the decision is yours. Microsoft did not say there was only one solution. Glad you found something to work for you. 

This is all not rushed. Live Spaces announced publicly six months prior to the closing of their service. I&#039;d say that was more than most companies offer. The fact that people are rushing to move also says something about the bigger picture. Yes, there are complainers, as there are for any such move. It&#039;s foreign, new, and a change from how &quot;things have been done&quot; but no one is forcing Live Spaces people to move now, fast, or only to WordPress.com. They just worked with WordPress.com to make the move easier for their members and the WordPress.com team is working overtime to accommodate the new members and meet their needs. 

The original 12 million bloggers on Live Spaces was a bloated number. It&#039;s a small percentage of that number and a lot of those blogs are dead and users not interested in making changes. Those that are, many are very satisfied with WordPress.com and enjoying the more diverse culture and options available for their needs. Others are making the long, past due decision to move to their own self-hosted blogs, many of them on WordPress. I&#039;ve also talked to some who&#039;ve moved their content over to WordPress.com, but their social and images to Flickr and Facebook, just changing their playgrounds around. No rules on what you can do for yourself. It&#039;s your stuff. Put it where it works for you. 

Again, good luck with your option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@st185cs: Live ID is proprietary to Microsoft. OpenID is used on WordPress.com, I believe, but I&#8217;m not sure if it would do what you wish. It really isn&#8217;t up to Microsoft to provide an alternative. They came to WordPress.com (nothing to do &#8211; sorta &#8211; with WordPress.org BTW) and said they liked what WordPress.com had done and wanted to offer their members this as an alternative. For the majority of users (not the ones who publicly complain), this a very feasible alternative to what they were doing with Live Spaces. For those, like yourself, with more coding experience, blogging experience, and clearly a dedicated reason to host your own blog or control your blog experience, you can choose from any of the many alternatives, of which Blogger is just one. There has been an increase over the past few years of those on Blogger migrating to WordPress.com for a variety of reasons, especially with the poor service, worm and hacking issues, and other frustrations. It isn&#8217;t about which is better as much as what works for you  &#8211; and the decision is yours. Microsoft did not say there was only one solution. Glad you found something to work for you. </p>
<p>This is all not rushed. Live Spaces announced publicly six months prior to the closing of their service. I&#8217;d say that was more than most companies offer. The fact that people are rushing to move also says something about the bigger picture. Yes, there are complainers, as there are for any such move. It&#8217;s foreign, new, and a change from how &#8220;things have been done&#8221; but no one is forcing Live Spaces people to move now, fast, or only to WordPress.com. They just worked with WordPress.com to make the move easier for their members and the WordPress.com team is working overtime to accommodate the new members and meet their needs. </p>
<p>The original 12 million bloggers on Live Spaces was a bloated number. It&#8217;s a small percentage of that number and a lot of those blogs are dead and users not interested in making changes. Those that are, many are very satisfied with WordPress.com and enjoying the more diverse culture and options available for their needs. Others are making the long, past due decision to move to their own self-hosted blogs, many of them on WordPress. I&#8217;ve also talked to some who&#8217;ve moved their content over to WordPress.com, but their social and images to Flickr and Facebook, just changing their playgrounds around. No rules on what you can do for yourself. It&#8217;s your stuff. Put it where it works for you. </p>
<p>Again, good luck with your option.</p>
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		<title>By: st185cs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of I don&#039;t have facebook, and I never will. And besides that I like to create little stories with pictures and format them how I like into nice little small articles for my friends and family to enjoy. The content of the blog is private in nature, entailing things like my son growing up, remodeling of my home and other things that goes on in my life I don&#039;t want to have publicly available on the net :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of I don&#8217;t have facebook, and I never will. And besides that I like to create little stories with pictures and format them how I like into nice little small articles for my friends and family to enjoy. The content of the blog is private in nature, entailing things like my son growing up, remodeling of my home and other things that goes on in my life I don&#8217;t want to have publicly available on the net <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thommck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thommck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi st185cs, I just wanted to ask what is the point of a private blog?
I could understand if it was a company intranet but a blog?
Why not just use Facebook to communicate with friends and family? If they already have Google &amp; Windows live accounts I&#039;m sure they use Facebook too.

Just curious]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi st185cs, I just wanted to ask what is the point of a private blog?<br />
I could understand if it was a company intranet but a blog?<br />
Why not just use Facebook to communicate with friends and family? If they already have Google &amp; Windows live accounts I&#8217;m sure they use Facebook too.</p>
<p>Just curious</p>
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		<title>By: st185cs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[st185cs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 07:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Lorelle VanFossen: Yes, but turns out too private, with only me reading the blog here at wordpress. Let me explain a bit.

In Spaces I had a private blog, it was readable only by my friends and family (my MSN contacts). They would be able to access and read the blog if they where logged in to live.com with their Live ID. There was no restriction as to how many MSN contacts I could have, and thus no restriction on how many readers my blog could have.

In wordpress my migrated blog was automatically set to private, that&#039;s good, but noone could read it. Why? Because it is not possible to authenticate with Live ID. What should have been in place was live ID authentication, and all my MSN contacts should have been added as readers of my new private wordpress blog. It turns out that in order for me to add my friends to read private blog on wordpress they all need to create wordpress accounts. It is not desirable to force all my friends and family to create wordpress accounts for the sole purpose of reading a blog. And to top that of, there is a maximum limit of 35 users on a private blog, if you want more than that you have to pay yearly fees.

The opensource version of wordpress even has a plugin to enable Live ID user authentication, with that in mind it&#039;s unbelievable that Microsoft didn&#039;t make wordpress implement this in the .com version before forcing all their users to wordpress. So private bloggers in spaces has really been hung out to dry with this move unfortunately.

So, I was looking around what to do, and I decided to move to Blogger, simple reason is that in Blogger you can have a private blog where you add user with Google Account. How many of my firends and family already has a Google Account? Almost everyone. How many of my friends has wordpress accounts? Almost noone. Also Blogger gives you 100 private blog readers, almost 3 times what wordpress offers, and I do find Blogger to be extremely customizable, it also supports lists, which is one feature that many of the old space users are missing.

After completing the migration process from spaces to blogger, I decided to share my work with the rest of the community.

If you go to livehelp spaces forum you will see that very many people are very unhappy with this move, and very many people are experiencing technical difficulty moving to wordpress, and for some countries, i.e. China, it&#039;s not even possible to move to wordpress, and no alternative has at this point been given by Microsoft.

This does in every way feel very much like a rushed, not even half tested, and definitely not thought through move by Microsoft. I&#039;m sure some people will find wordpress is a nice alternative for them, but it is not for everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lorelle VanFossen: Yes, but turns out too private, with only me reading the blog here at wordpress. Let me explain a bit.</p>
<p>In Spaces I had a private blog, it was readable only by my friends and family (my MSN contacts). They would be able to access and read the blog if they where logged in to live.com with their Live ID. There was no restriction as to how many MSN contacts I could have, and thus no restriction on how many readers my blog could have.</p>
<p>In wordpress my migrated blog was automatically set to private, that&#8217;s good, but noone could read it. Why? Because it is not possible to authenticate with Live ID. What should have been in place was live ID authentication, and all my MSN contacts should have been added as readers of my new private wordpress blog. It turns out that in order for me to add my friends to read private blog on wordpress they all need to create wordpress accounts. It is not desirable to force all my friends and family to create wordpress accounts for the sole purpose of reading a blog. And to top that of, there is a maximum limit of 35 users on a private blog, if you want more than that you have to pay yearly fees.</p>
<p>The opensource version of wordpress even has a plugin to enable Live ID user authentication, with that in mind it&#8217;s unbelievable that Microsoft didn&#8217;t make wordpress implement this in the .com version before forcing all their users to wordpress. So private bloggers in spaces has really been hung out to dry with this move unfortunately.</p>
<p>So, I was looking around what to do, and I decided to move to Blogger, simple reason is that in Blogger you can have a private blog where you add user with Google Account. How many of my firends and family already has a Google Account? Almost everyone. How many of my friends has wordpress accounts? Almost noone. Also Blogger gives you 100 private blog readers, almost 3 times what wordpress offers, and I do find Blogger to be extremely customizable, it also supports lists, which is one feature that many of the old space users are missing.</p>
<p>After completing the migration process from spaces to blogger, I decided to share my work with the rest of the community.</p>
<p>If you go to livehelp spaces forum you will see that very many people are very unhappy with this move, and very many people are experiencing technical difficulty moving to wordpress, and for some countries, i.e. China, it&#8217;s not even possible to move to wordpress, and no alternative has at this point been given by Microsoft.</p>
<p>This does in every way feel very much like a rushed, not even half tested, and definitely not thought through move by Microsoft. I&#8217;m sure some people will find wordpress is a nice alternative for them, but it is not for everyone.</p>
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