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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-922975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many web designers who will work for less. There are also many graphic designers who will also work within your budget or hit up graphic design students to see if they are willing to do it for much less or free in order to get the resume credit. There are a lot of options. There are over 5,000 WordPress Themes available for free, which could work for you as a framework with a little cheap tweaking, which would also reduce your costs. 

There are millions of people looking for cheap and beautiful web designs, and a change in the industry as many web designers are now &quot;social media experts&quot; so it&#039;s hard to find someone good (and cheap), but there are still options. 

Also remember that some of the best and most popular sites on the web are ugly. And I mean REALLY ugly. But if you have a specific look in mind, then start digging around graphic designers and such and you will find someone who can help you. Sorry I don&#039;t have any recommendations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many web designers who will work for less. There are also many graphic designers who will also work within your budget or hit up graphic design students to see if they are willing to do it for much less or free in order to get the resume credit. There are a lot of options. There are over 5,000 WordPress Themes available for free, which could work for you as a framework with a little cheap tweaking, which would also reduce your costs. </p>
<p>There are millions of people looking for cheap and beautiful web designs, and a change in the industry as many web designers are now &#8220;social media experts&#8221; so it&#8217;s hard to find someone good (and cheap), but there are still options. </p>
<p>Also remember that some of the best and most popular sites on the web are ugly. And I mean REALLY ugly. But if you have a specific look in mind, then start digging around graphic designers and such and you will find someone who can help you. Sorry I don&#8217;t have any recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: sondan</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-922933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sondan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your reply.

I think you are telling me that there ARE just graphic designers both pro and students. Since I cannot draw nor do I know how to do computer graphics I will continue the search on my own  to locate some one who can translate my graphic ideas to the screen for my background page and header. I just wasn&#039;t sure those type of folks existed and thought you might have some recommendations in this field based on your experience. I will make the search on my own and do the rest. 

I am well aware of the existence of Blog designers, and as I said in my original question, the research I did do resulted in my concluding that approx $2000. (the average) was out of my price range for the ENTIRE BLOG DESIGN. So I was just asking if pros exists just to handle the graphics portions of a blog -- specifically the header and background image. 

Content is not an issue for me. If I had nothing to write about I would not venture to blog. And I am NOT naive enough to think it doesn&#039;t matter. Also I prefer my blog to look nice and not lousy. I want content AND design and plan to get both. I just have to get it done on a budget!(SMILE) I see no reason to have just one or the other but you are entitled to you opinion as am I.

Again, thank you for your prompt response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply.</p>
<p>I think you are telling me that there ARE just graphic designers both pro and students. Since I cannot draw nor do I know how to do computer graphics I will continue the search on my own  to locate some one who can translate my graphic ideas to the screen for my background page and header. I just wasn&#8217;t sure those type of folks existed and thought you might have some recommendations in this field based on your experience. I will make the search on my own and do the rest. </p>
<p>I am well aware of the existence of Blog designers, and as I said in my original question, the research I did do resulted in my concluding that approx $2000. (the average) was out of my price range for the ENTIRE BLOG DESIGN. So I was just asking if pros exists just to handle the graphics portions of a blog &#8212; specifically the header and background image. </p>
<p>Content is not an issue for me. If I had nothing to write about I would not venture to blog. And I am NOT naive enough to think it doesn&#8217;t matter. Also I prefer my blog to look nice and not lousy. I want content AND design and plan to get both. I just have to get it done on a budget!(SMILE) I see no reason to have just one or the other but you are entitled to you opinion as am I.</p>
<p>Again, thank you for your prompt response.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-922923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL. I&#039;ve been working with all versions of WordPress almost since it&#039;s earliest versions. I was asked to test drive the new WordPress.com in the beginning. Never judge a blogger by their hosting service. :D 

There are many designers out there. I&#039;m not sure of the going rate for their services for what you are looking for as I&#039;m not sure what designs you have in your head. I&#039;d start by researching what is already out there and available, and find out who designed it and ask. Or start playing around with design software to learn how to create your end goal, just as you decided to learn HTML and CSS, which most people think is easy and can be very complicated, so take care not to make too many assumptions.

There are tons of graphic designs licensed for free non-commercial usage and some for commercial-who-cares-what-you-do licenses. Maybe something might come close until you find someone to do it better and more affordable. There are also many graphic design students looking for work to put on their resume. Also remember, you get what you pay for. 

A blog is about content, not design, which is important to remember. Many of the most successful blogs in the world, including many of mine, have been ugly for a long time before they were pretty. Content will always win over an ugly design, as long as the design doesn&#039;t interfere with the content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I&#8217;ve been working with all versions of WordPress almost since it&#8217;s earliest versions. I was asked to test drive the new WordPress.com in the beginning. Never judge a blogger by their hosting service. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>There are many designers out there. I&#8217;m not sure of the going rate for their services for what you are looking for as I&#8217;m not sure what designs you have in your head. I&#8217;d start by researching what is already out there and available, and find out who designed it and ask. Or start playing around with design software to learn how to create your end goal, just as you decided to learn HTML and CSS, which most people think is easy and can be very complicated, so take care not to make too many assumptions.</p>
<p>There are tons of graphic designs licensed for free non-commercial usage and some for commercial-who-cares-what-you-do licenses. Maybe something might come close until you find someone to do it better and more affordable. There are also many graphic design students looking for work to put on their resume. Also remember, you get what you pay for. </p>
<p>A blog is about content, not design, which is important to remember. Many of the most successful blogs in the world, including many of mine, have been ugly for a long time before they were pretty. Content will always win over an ugly design, as long as the design doesn&#8217;t interfere with the content.</p>
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		<title>By: sondan</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-922921</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sondan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am finally making the leap from WP hosted to self-hosted and have been reading your theme tips in preparation. I can see the design I want in my head but don&#039;t have the graphic creation skills I need. So I decided to shop around for blog designers but they are all in the $2000.00 range and that is just to rich for me.

With your tips I figure I can tweak a theme by myself to save that $2K, but how can I find someone just to create the graphics  (for background page, etc) that I have in my head. Are there such services that just do this only for bloggers?

Also I was just curious how you came about all of your great tips useful for WP.Org yet you are using a WP hosted blog?

Thanks in advance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am finally making the leap from WP hosted to self-hosted and have been reading your theme tips in preparation. I can see the design I want in my head but don&#8217;t have the graphic creation skills I need. So I decided to shop around for blog designers but they are all in the $2000.00 range and that is just to rich for me.</p>
<p>With your tips I figure I can tweak a theme by myself to save that $2K, but how can I find someone just to create the graphics  (for background page, etc) that I have in my head. Are there such services that just do this only for bloggers?</p>
<p>Also I was just curious how you came about all of your great tips useful for WP.Org yet you are using a WP hosted blog?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance</p>
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		<title>By: NAS Survey &#124; Tangled Up in Blue Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAS Survey &#124; Tangled Up in Blue Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cyberward.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress Themes</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-914204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyberward.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress Themes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I have been sitting here thinking I need to update the them I am using to 2.7, when I found this link. There are a ton of resources listed here about Wordpress themes, but the most interresting is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have been sitting here thinking I need to update the them I am using to 2.7, when I found this link. There are a ton of resources listed here about WordPress themes, but the most interresting is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-914187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link Lorelle, it looks interesting! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Lorelle, it looks interesting! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hans van Wijk</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-914051</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans van Wijk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for these wonderful links will check them out. I noticed that the very first link to &quot;WordPress Template Files&quot; doesn&#039;t work because there is no &quot;r&quot; in the .org extension.

Once again thank you very much, this is very useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for these wonderful links will check them out. I noticed that the very first link to &#8220;WordPress Template Files&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work because there is no &#8220;r&#8221; in the .org extension.</p>
<p>Once again thank you very much, this is very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-914021</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  WordPress Themes: Start With a Solid Framework Why I Created a WordPress Theme Framework by Justin Tadlock is a good look at the reasons why WordPress Theme designers [...] [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/wordpress-themes-start-with-a-solid-framework/#comment-913958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link, Lorelle.  Working with a framework has made my life so much easier as a theme author.  It has allowed me to put together projects much more quickly than normal.

Anyone serious about building WordPress themes should definitely consider building a theme framework or at least taking a look at the coding standards that most of us building them try to adhere to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Lorelle.  Working with a framework has made my life so much easier as a theme author.  It has allowed me to put together projects much more quickly than normal.</p>
<p>Anyone serious about building WordPress themes should definitely consider building a theme framework or at least taking a look at the coding standards that most of us building them try to adhere to.</p>
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