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		<title>By: Do Not Delete Comment Spam. Mark Spam as Spam. &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-952163</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Managing Multiple Bloggers: Author Content Management on WordPress &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-940564</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Managing Multiple Bloggers: Author Content Management on WordPress &#171; Lorelle on WordPress]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the original intention of the first web developers, yet they remain ignored or put down by others. Trackbacks still matter and are very important for SEO and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: xsportseeker</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-923443</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think most commenters got it already, but here&#039;s my opinion:
Trackbacks can&#039;t be counted as comments, and comments can&#039;t be counted as trackbacks.
Maybe that&#039;s what the initial statements meant to say.

Both have it&#039;s upsides and downsides, both can be used to spam useless stuff.

I still think they are better separate. But as long as you can keep them that way, there&#039;s no need to disable completely.

My major problem with Trackbacks and the reason why I reached this blog, is because I&#039;m trying to find a way to insert them on a separate part of the post (just like here), and give commenters the option to hide them.
Unfortunately, I&#039;m using Intense Debate, so I&#039;m still not shure how it affects the whole thing, and I dunno which files I&#039;ll have to try to edit... maybe the IntenseDebate plugin files.

Trackbacks can be very annoying for commenters, even though some can take advantage of it.
It&#039;s useful for the poster and blog admin to estabilish that connection between bloggers Lorelle talked about, but to be quite frank, as a commenter and not an admin, I couldn&#039;t careless about them. If I&#039;m visiting a blog I like, I usually judge it by the content, writers and editor style, etc... I don&#039;t even look the trackbacks to see who quoted this post or not, mainly because I don&#039;t like the elitism among top bloggers.

But that&#039;s just me. I won&#039;t deny it&#039;s also a way people can judge your blog or not...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think most commenters got it already, but here&#8217;s my opinion:<br />
Trackbacks can&#8217;t be counted as comments, and comments can&#8217;t be counted as trackbacks.<br />
Maybe that&#8217;s what the initial statements meant to say.</p>
<p>Both have it&#8217;s upsides and downsides, both can be used to spam useless stuff.</p>
<p>I still think they are better separate. But as long as you can keep them that way, there&#8217;s no need to disable completely.</p>
<p>My major problem with Trackbacks and the reason why I reached this blog, is because I&#8217;m trying to find a way to insert them on a separate part of the post (just like here), and give commenters the option to hide them.<br />
Unfortunately, I&#8217;m using Intense Debate, so I&#8217;m still not shure how it affects the whole thing, and I dunno which files I&#8217;ll have to try to edit&#8230; maybe the IntenseDebate plugin files.</p>
<p>Trackbacks can be very annoying for commenters, even though some can take advantage of it.<br />
It&#8217;s useful for the poster and blog admin to estabilish that connection between bloggers Lorelle talked about, but to be quite frank, as a commenter and not an admin, I couldn&#8217;t careless about them. If I&#8217;m visiting a blog I like, I usually judge it by the content, writers and editor style, etc&#8230; I don&#8217;t even look the trackbacks to see who quoted this post or not, mainly because I don&#8217;t like the elitism among top bloggers.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just me. I won&#8217;t deny it&#8217;s also a way people can judge your blog or not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Gear</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-915719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Gear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post, Thanks for sharing. I feel trackbacks and comments are both similar. However... Trackbacks has a far greater advantage and they increase the possibility of your site being visited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Thanks for sharing. I feel trackbacks and comments are both similar. However&#8230; Trackbacks has a far greater advantage and they increase the possibility of your site being visited.</p>
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		<title>By: AldeanTech</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-915492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AldeanTech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think trackbacks are great as long as they are not abused.  It is a shame that people do.  I still feel bloggers should accept trackbacks and just maintain their websites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think trackbacks are great as long as they are not abused.  It is a shame that people do.  I still feel bloggers should accept trackbacks and just maintain their websites.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-913759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the article explains why trackbacks are so important, hearkening back to the path one took to being honored for the Nobel awards and other scholarly honors. While many abuse trackbacks, more abuse comments. I don&#039;t see us turning off comments, and trackbacks are often more significant than comments like &quot;Great article&quot; or &quot;Very useful, thanks!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the article explains why trackbacks are so important, hearkening back to the path one took to being honored for the Nobel awards and other scholarly honors. While many abuse trackbacks, more abuse comments. I don&#8217;t see us turning off comments, and trackbacks are often more significant than comments like &#8220;Great article&#8221; or &#8220;Very useful, thanks!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-913754</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of people do use trackbacks as a spammy way to get backlicks. I for one never understand the reason to have trackbacks in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people do use trackbacks as a spammy way to get backlicks. I for one never understand the reason to have trackbacks in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: papajoneh</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-913440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[papajoneh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a techie guy nor anything close to expert in any field (including my poor english) except my rc hobby but this post really made me wanna say something too. For me, trackback is important, in fact very very important. I have enough comments in my boring post but nothing beat trackback, other blogger or anyone out there talking about you, linking back to what we&#039;ve just posted. I really appreciate that. I totally agree with what you said here Lorelle. I&#039;m glad I subscribed your rss for 1st reason of course of how great WORDPRESS is.

For me, Trackback rules same like Wordpress rules the blogging world. Amen. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a techie guy nor anything close to expert in any field (including my poor english) except my rc hobby but this post really made me wanna say something too. For me, trackback is important, in fact very very important. I have enough comments in my boring post but nothing beat trackback, other blogger or anyone out there talking about you, linking back to what we&#8217;ve just posted. I really appreciate that. I totally agree with what you said here Lorelle. I&#8217;m glad I subscribed your rss for 1st reason of course of how great WORDPRESS is.</p>
<p>For me, Trackback rules same like WordPress rules the blogging world. Amen. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chip Bennett</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-913404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To say that &quot;people [don&#039;t] care about trackbacks anymore&quot; seems to me to be an awfully short-sighted statement. That statement may be true for us long-tail bloggers, but it is certainly *not* true for top-tier blogs (or for anyone with aspirations for such blogs).

To say that bloggers with trackbacks enables are &quot;new to the game&quot; is awfully ironic. To argue that trackbacks shouldn&#039;t be used because of &quot;how unprofessional it all looks&quot; is to conflate the significance of the trackback with issues of style/aesthetics/presentation - and under no circumstances does bad presentation of trackbacks diminish their importance.

I&#039;m not surprised by such attitudes, though; I think it is a symptom of both the explosion of popularity of blogging combined with a misunderstanding of blogging (e.g. many people believe that commenting on a blog post makes one a &quot;blogger&quot;, while in reality a blogger is one who maintains his own blog).

The &#039;sphere is at its heart a *network* of bloggers carrying on extended conversations and propagating memes, which is why a trackback carries inherently more significance than a comment. Trackbacks represent that the issue about which a blog post is written is important enough to transcend both the original blogger and the original blog post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that &#8220;people [don't] care about trackbacks anymore&#8221; seems to me to be an awfully short-sighted statement. That statement may be true for us long-tail bloggers, but it is certainly *not* true for top-tier blogs (or for anyone with aspirations for such blogs).</p>
<p>To say that bloggers with trackbacks enables are &#8220;new to the game&#8221; is awfully ironic. To argue that trackbacks shouldn&#8217;t be used because of &#8220;how unprofessional it all looks&#8221; is to conflate the significance of the trackback with issues of style/aesthetics/presentation &#8211; and under no circumstances does bad presentation of trackbacks diminish their importance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by such attitudes, though; I think it is a symptom of both the explosion of popularity of blogging combined with a misunderstanding of blogging (e.g. many people believe that commenting on a blog post makes one a &#8220;blogger&#8221;, while in reality a blogger is one who maintains his own blog).</p>
<p>The &#8216;sphere is at its heart a *network* of bloggers carrying on extended conversations and propagating memes, which is why a trackback carries inherently more significance than a comment. Trackbacks represent that the issue about which a blog post is written is important enough to transcend both the original blogger and the original blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Struggles: Trackbacks Count « Lorelle on WordPress &#124; thetrackbacksecrets</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/blog-struggles-trackbacks-count/#comment-913400</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blog Struggles: Trackbacks Count « Lorelle on WordPress &#124; thetrackbacksecrets]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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