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		<title>By: links for 2008-02-19 &#124; Dustyhawk :: Broken Mirror</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/seo-advertising-only-two-ways-to-get-traffic-to-your-blog/#comment-899243</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mcneri</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lorelle, I am very new to blogging and your blog. I must say I know I have a lot to learn. However, having said that, I have to point out that the topic we are discussing here is a pitch, a sales pitch. Salesmen generally say half-truths to make their sale and move on. Then when your money is in their pocket, they may hint you the other half. Other people&#039;s traffic is simply saying that if you are not an ISP, people only get to your site from another site. This &quot;another site&quot; could be a search engine, an ad or a blog entry. The second part of advertising offline is simple: talk, print, suggest, business card, at a speech, etc. The SEO &quot;guru&quot; that dropped the &quot;only two ways&quot; line above simply is guarding his &quot;trade secret&quot;. If everyone knows SEO then he believes he will be out of business. I like your blog and I will be here everyday, but first let me zoom off to the list given by Jason. I need help myself! Thanks for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorelle, I am very new to blogging and your blog. I must say I know I have a lot to learn. However, having said that, I have to point out that the topic we are discussing here is a pitch, a sales pitch. Salesmen generally say half-truths to make their sale and move on. Then when your money is in their pocket, they may hint you the other half. Other people&#8217;s traffic is simply saying that if you are not an ISP, people only get to your site from another site. This &#8220;another site&#8221; could be a search engine, an ad or a blog entry. The second part of advertising offline is simple: talk, print, suggest, business card, at a speech, etc. The SEO &#8220;guru&#8221; that dropped the &#8220;only two ways&#8221; line above simply is guarding his &#8220;trade secret&#8221;. If everyone knows SEO then he believes he will be out of business. I like your blog and I will be here everyday, but first let me zoom off to the list given by Jason. I need help myself! Thanks for this.</p>
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		<title>By: byknight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[byknight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:D Ivan - You and SEO are probably right: There isn&#039;t much point in &quot;Go tell it on a mountain!&quot; if there is no one there to listen, no matter how good the content (telling on mountains has some good precedents and the Biblical ones seem to have their audiences assured, we probably need to go and fetch them). I had in mind that being &#039;useful and or interesting&#039; could help getting searchers coming back or staying on with their RSS feeds and subscriptions. I may be missing the point, and Lorelle&#039;s as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Ivan &#8211; You and SEO are probably right: There isn&#8217;t much point in &#8220;Go tell it on a mountain!&#8221; if there is no one there to listen, no matter how good the content (telling on mountains has some good precedents and the Biblical ones seem to have their audiences assured, we probably need to go and fetch them). I had in mind that being &#8216;useful and or interesting&#8217; could help getting searchers coming back or staying on with their RSS feeds and subscriptions. I may be missing the point, and Lorelle&#8217;s as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/seo-advertising-only-two-ways-to-get-traffic-to-your-blog/#comment-891397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well if the above is true, than I have a serious missconception about SEO in my head! :)

Ivan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if the above is true, than I have a serious missconception about SEO in my head! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ivan</p>
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		<title>By: byknight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[byknight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I can&#039;t believe it. I&#039;m brand new to blogging, this kind anyway, at this stage I have all of 43 visitors! In these last ten days I&#039;ve come across so many obvious scams to &#039;get traffic&#039; and &#039;earn money, more and more&#039;, usually at some stage Buy MY One and Only how to book for $97. I&#039;ve fallen for a few and I&#039;m glad my very limited pocket book has kept me for giving in to more (do I share this quiet sense of panic and frustration with all beginners?). I haven&#039;t yet seen enough of your work to know your reasons for &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; you think it&#039;s so wrong, though I&#039;m catching up fast, time reading your work here may be turning out one of the best investments yet.

I&#039;m a writer and have been a journalist though and have never found any other way to get people to pay for my stuff (or read it at all) that wasn&#039;t good content (and yes, humour is an excellent condiment!)

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I can&#8217;t believe it. I&#8217;m brand new to blogging, this kind anyway, at this stage I have all of 43 visitors! In these last ten days I&#8217;ve come across so many obvious scams to &#8216;get traffic&#8217; and &#8216;earn money, more and more&#8217;, usually at some stage Buy MY One and Only how to book for $97. I&#8217;ve fallen for a few and I&#8217;m glad my very limited pocket book has kept me for giving in to more (do I share this quiet sense of panic and frustration with all beginners?). I haven&#8217;t yet seen enough of your work to know your reasons for <i>why</i> you think it&#8217;s so wrong, though I&#8217;m catching up fast, time reading your work here may be turning out one of the best investments yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a writer and have been a journalist though and have never found any other way to get people to pay for my stuff (or read it at all) that wasn&#8217;t good content (and yes, humour is an excellent condiment!)</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Rushabh Choksi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rushabh Choksi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey i am a blogger and i blog on 2 blogs and also provide seo services. i would like to share few ways (not easy) of doing your seo: commenting on other peoples blog post just like i did now (lol). and also by sending out messages on social networking sites. i have also blogged on how to get your seo done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i am a blogger and i blog on 2 blogs and also provide seo services. i would like to share few ways (not easy) of doing your seo: commenting on other peoples blog post just like i did now (lol). and also by sending out messages on social networking sites. i have also blogged on how to get your seo done.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyndy</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/seo-advertising-only-two-ways-to-get-traffic-to-your-blog/#comment-890945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyndy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I can&#039;t spend all of my hard-earned paycheck on website traffic. Aww, shucks! :p

In all seriousness, though, I think a lot of the naivete about gaining traffic comes from inexperience and impatience. It&#039;s the age-old issue of people wanting everything without doing anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I can&#8217;t spend all of my hard-earned paycheck on website traffic. Aww, shucks! :p</p>
<p>In all seriousness, though, I think a lot of the naivete about gaining traffic comes from inexperience and impatience. It&#8217;s the age-old issue of people wanting everything without doing anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason DeVelvis</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/seo-advertising-only-two-ways-to-get-traffic-to-your-blog/#comment-890871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason DeVelvis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@RatsInMo
I agree, humor is a great way to get your point across, but you have to watch how you do it - too much humor tends to make the point you&#039;re trying to make bounce off the reader.

Jason]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RatsInMo<br />
I agree, humor is a great way to get your point across, but you have to watch how you do it &#8211; too much humor tends to make the point you&#8217;re trying to make bounce off the reader.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: RatsInMo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RatsInMo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In reply to Jason DeVelvis:

You bring up a lot of great points.  But I personally think the optimal way of helping people to learn good marketing techniques is to preach from a humor standpoint.  For example, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.omnistaretools.com/best-ways-to-advertise-your-website.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the best ways to advertise your site&lt;/a&gt;&quot; looks serious at first glance, especially if you just look at the title.  But at least they&#039;re trying to list out good methods in a funny way, making it more likely for people to listen.

After all, the best way to get across to someone who doesn&#039;t want to listen is to make them laugh about it.  Over time, humor can change people&#039;s perceptions.  (I won&#039;t go into the jester/king analogy, but I think you get the idea.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to Jason DeVelvis:</p>
<p>You bring up a lot of great points.  But I personally think the optimal way of helping people to learn good marketing techniques is to preach from a humor standpoint.  For example, &#8220;<a href="http://www.omnistaretools.com/best-ways-to-advertise-your-website.htm" rel="nofollow">the best ways to advertise your site</a>&#8221; looks serious at first glance, especially if you just look at the title.  But at least they&#8217;re trying to list out good methods in a funny way, making it more likely for people to listen.</p>
<p>After all, the best way to get across to someone who doesn&#8217;t want to listen is to make them laugh about it.  Over time, humor can change people&#8217;s perceptions.  (I won&#8217;t go into the jester/king analogy, but I think you get the idea.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason DeVelvis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason DeVelvis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually think the comment is true, but not entirely correct. Think about it this way - I could say &quot;There&#039;s only one way to get traffic. People navigate to your site with their computer&quot; and it would be true. But helpful? Not in the least. Of course the only way to get traffic is when people come to your site.

Now, apply that to the comment above, and it&#039;s true, people get to your site by seeing a link on someone else&#039;s site, or by paid advertising. If you wanted to, you could say that links from another side are a form of word of mouth - which, of course, is advertising (just not paid) - so you could abstract the comment to say, truthfully, that the only way to get anyone to come to your site is to advertise. The same holds true for everything. Nobody will email you unless you tell people your email address (unless you count random spam that just happens to hit your box because a computer guessed your address, but that&#039;s neither here nor there)

That said, I wholly understand what you&#039;re talking about. There are SO many ways to get traffic to your site if you want to get detailed in talking about them.

Blog comments
Blog posts about your site
Forum posts
Forum signatures
YouTube
USFreeAds
Google Base
EzineArticles (and the billions of other article directories)
Squidoo
Person to person emails
Email newsletters
Word of mouth
Actual conversations with people (gasp! heh)
Google, Yahoo, et al.
Facebook, MySpace, et al.
I could go on... and on... and on...

And, of course, pretty much all of the above can be achieved for free, or paid for, depending on how fast you want it done. (and in some cases, how well)

I&#039;m quite sure I know your frustration first hand. I&#039;ve been marketing my products and services online for years now, and I&#039;ve seen it all (though, I do still get surprised more often than I&#039;d like) - the spam, the pseudo-spam, the &quot;innocent&quot; spam by people just starting out, etc. It&#039;s all elegantly crafted to suck people in to perpetuate the system (read: the pyramid) and not actually teach anyone much of anything.

The sad part is that this can be combatted with common sense and a very small bit of research, but people are looking so hard for a &quot;magic pill&quot; that they&#039;ll try anything that dangles dollar signs in front of them. And I do use the word &quot;try&quot; lightly, because when simultaneously spamming 1 million blogs with a comment about the latest pyramid scheme doesn&#039;t work, they jump ship and try the next &quot;next best thing.&quot;

For the past 3 years, I&#039;ve been trying to find some way to help people who easily fall into that trap, and I&#039;ve found that most of them don&#039;t want to be helped, unfortunately. There are those who do, but the vast majority are looking for push button profits, and that just doesn&#039;t exist.

Sorry for the long winded comment, Lorelle, you hit a pressure point for me on this one :) heh - Great conversation starter!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think the comment is true, but not entirely correct. Think about it this way &#8211; I could say &#8220;There&#8217;s only one way to get traffic. People navigate to your site with their computer&#8221; and it would be true. But helpful? Not in the least. Of course the only way to get traffic is when people come to your site.</p>
<p>Now, apply that to the comment above, and it&#8217;s true, people get to your site by seeing a link on someone else&#8217;s site, or by paid advertising. If you wanted to, you could say that links from another side are a form of word of mouth &#8211; which, of course, is advertising (just not paid) &#8211; so you could abstract the comment to say, truthfully, that the only way to get anyone to come to your site is to advertise. The same holds true for everything. Nobody will email you unless you tell people your email address (unless you count random spam that just happens to hit your box because a computer guessed your address, but that&#8217;s neither here nor there)</p>
<p>That said, I wholly understand what you&#8217;re talking about. There are SO many ways to get traffic to your site if you want to get detailed in talking about them.</p>
<p>Blog comments<br />
Blog posts about your site<br />
Forum posts<br />
Forum signatures<br />
YouTube<br />
USFreeAds<br />
Google Base<br />
EzineArticles (and the billions of other article directories)<br />
Squidoo<br />
Person to person emails<br />
Email newsletters<br />
Word of mouth<br />
Actual conversations with people (gasp! heh)<br />
Google, Yahoo, et al.<br />
Facebook, MySpace, et al.<br />
I could go on&#8230; and on&#8230; and on&#8230;</p>
<p>And, of course, pretty much all of the above can be achieved for free, or paid for, depending on how fast you want it done. (and in some cases, how well)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite sure I know your frustration first hand. I&#8217;ve been marketing my products and services online for years now, and I&#8217;ve seen it all (though, I do still get surprised more often than I&#8217;d like) &#8211; the spam, the pseudo-spam, the &#8220;innocent&#8221; spam by people just starting out, etc. It&#8217;s all elegantly crafted to suck people in to perpetuate the system (read: the pyramid) and not actually teach anyone much of anything.</p>
<p>The sad part is that this can be combatted with common sense and a very small bit of research, but people are looking so hard for a &#8220;magic pill&#8221; that they&#8217;ll try anything that dangles dollar signs in front of them. And I do use the word &#8220;try&#8221; lightly, because when simultaneously spamming 1 million blogs with a comment about the latest pyramid scheme doesn&#8217;t work, they jump ship and try the next &#8220;next best thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the past 3 years, I&#8217;ve been trying to find some way to help people who easily fall into that trap, and I&#8217;ve found that most of them don&#8217;t want to be helped, unfortunately. There are those who do, but the vast majority are looking for push button profits, and that just doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long winded comment, Lorelle, you hit a pressure point for me on this one <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  heh &#8211; Great conversation starter!</p>
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