Comments on: Winning the Battle Over Comment Spam: Akismet and Search Engines? http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/ Helping you learn more and do more with WordPress Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:02:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: WordPress Anniversary: WordPress and Evil « Lorelle on WordPress http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-1002263 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:57:34 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-1002263 […] Winning the Battle Over Comment Spam: Akismet and Search Engines? […]

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]]> By: keyboard piano http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-210797 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:48:24 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-210797 keyboard piano

That is the Tall Man’s Blue Cube.

]]> By: Jack Of All Blogs » Blog Archive » Wordpress, Akismet : Google or Yahoo? http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-146583 Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:11:17 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-146583 [...] entry yesterday touched something I have been thinking of a lot lately. And the topic came up today in a discussion [...]

]]> By: engtech http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144890 Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:11:08 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144890 I’ve update the document to clarify that it goes from 3-6 comments per screen of text to 17-20 comments per screen of text.

Includes a nice side-by-side screenshot. Looking at the scrollbars is interesting because with the Greasemonkey script it’s about 5 screenfuls of comment spam per page, and without it is about 18 screenfuls of comment spam per page.

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144839 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:34:12 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144839 Give me a bit to check it out and will do. Just for you. :P

]]> By: engtech http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144800 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:02:00 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144800 Lorelle, I put together a Greasemonkey reskin for the Akismet bin on WordPress.com blogs.

I’d really appreciate if you could mention it in a post since you get so much more traffic than I do. :)

http://engtech.wordpress.com/tools/wordpress/akismet-auntie-spam/

* Moves navigation bar to the bottom instead of the top.
* Reduces text size.
* Truncates long comments.
* Click to open a popup with full comment.

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144692 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:46:05 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144692 sharique: the brilliant minds behind Bad Behavior are also working on Akismet. Bad Behavior has a specific use, and works differently and together with Akismet. I’d love to see them incorporated in many ways to stop the hits on the database as well as filtering comment spam.

]]> By: Michael Scott http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144642 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:03:04 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144642 I think it’s an “interesting” idea but it makes me nervous.

Like Matt says, it would be easy to automate spam comments that look like they come from a legit site. If, through mistakes or bad behaviour on the part of an ex employee or a competitor, your site were to vanish from search engines, it would take a lot of effort to work out why and to try to rectify the problem.

Yes, do all we can to beat the spammers but when we begin to shoot ourselves in the feet, we have more problems!

]]> By: Kian Ann http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144545 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:49:43 +0000 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/winning-the-battle-over-comment-spam-akismet-and-search-engines/#comment-144545 I think Akismet is a great service and has really helped so many web masters save hours dealing with spam. The idea of SE’s working with Akismet’s data is awesome, but I think more thought can be put in this.

There are three levels in all, where we can work on (just off my head)

1. Delete the spam comment itself.
2. Penalise the website the spam is used to “promote”, is any.
3. Penalise the person owning the website!

Mining Akismet’s data to observe which websites are the spammer site belong to the second level. However a major drawback to this approach is that websites do change hands, and so do IP addresses. This approach allows the spammers to wash away their dirt and leave a dirty domain in the web. Just imagine how you would feel if you bought a new domain and then realise every comment you make goes straight to spam!

Should this collaboration also involve the name registrars, and every website that provides for user generated content? I don’t know how this is possible, because it seems like a crazily massive idea… but this way, we tackle spam at the root – the spammer himself!

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