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	<title>Comments on: Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7</title>
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		<title>By: Pushing Internet Explorer 7 &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-889845</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pushing Internet Explorer 7 &#171; Lorelle on WordPress]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Internet Explorer 8 Getting Ready for You : The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-866685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Internet Explorer 8 Getting Ready for You : The Blog Herald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] claim that all IE hacks could be done away with to get ready for IE7 was a joke. Removing them made your site break with older versions of Internet [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] claim that all IE hacks could be done away with to get ready for IE7 was a joke. Removing them made your site break with older versions of Internet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jakob E</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-60521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jakob E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see the problem

IE7 is far better than previous versions of IE when it comes
to W3C compliance. It&#039;s only a problem if you dug yourself 
a hole making your designs rely on IE or created a mess using
css hacks.

You should always design with common standards in mind and not 
rely on browser bugs to fix your problems. This is exactly what 
you do when using css hacks.

What you should do is:
Start by creating your design in accordance with the W3C semantics 
both (X)Html and Css.

Then fix the IE problems using conditional comments to control the 
includes of overruling styles. Conditional comments are available 
from IE5... Prior versions are - in my opinion - obsolete.


Best, Jakob E

Links:
___________________________________

CSS validatior:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

Markup validator:
http://validator.w3.org/

More on conditional comments:
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the problem</p>
<p>IE7 is far better than previous versions of IE when it comes<br />
to W3C compliance. It&#8217;s only a problem if you dug yourself<br />
a hole making your designs rely on IE or created a mess using<br />
css hacks.</p>
<p>You should always design with common standards in mind and not<br />
rely on browser bugs to fix your problems. This is exactly what<br />
you do when using css hacks.</p>
<p>What you should do is:<br />
Start by creating your design in accordance with the W3C semantics<br />
both (X)Html and Css.</p>
<p>Then fix the IE problems using conditional comments to control the<br />
includes of overruling styles. Conditional comments are available<br />
from IE5&#8230; Prior versions are &#8211; in my opinion &#8211; obsolete.</p>
<p>Best, Jakob E</p>
<p>Links:<br />
___________________________________</p>
<p>CSS validatior:<br />
<a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/" rel="nofollow">http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/</a></p>
<p>Markup validator:<br />
<a href="http://validator.w3.org/" rel="nofollow">http://validator.w3.org/</a></p>
<p>More on conditional comments:<br />
<a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: K2 error in IE7 at Serendipity</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-56120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K2 error in IE7 at Serendipity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7 [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Serendipity &#187; K2 error</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-56116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serendipity &#187; K2 error]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7 [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: CT Biz Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet Explorer 7.0 has arrived</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-53416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CT Biz Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet Explorer 7.0 has arrived]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-53416</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] In related IE7 news, Lorelle VanFossen is writing a nice series on &#8220;Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7.&#8221; This is a more techy view, talking about CSS, among other things, but if you&#8217;re a geek or geek-wannabe like me, this is for you!     by Sabine  @ 7:05 am. Filed under Blogging tips, Blogging Issues     &#160; [link for this post] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In related IE7 news, Lorelle VanFossen is writing a nice series on &#8220;Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7.&#8221; This is a more techy view, talking about CSS, among other things, but if you&#8217;re a geek or geek-wannabe like me, this is for you!     by Sabine  @ 7:05 am. Filed under Blogging tips, Blogging Issues     &nbsp; [link for this post] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sugar</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-51302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sugar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, no, and no.

I don&#039;t agree with this. Why should we designers worry about our themes&#039; compatibility with IE7? Isn&#039;t it their job to deal with backwards compatibility? (provided that our code is supposed to work)

I&#039;m quite sure now, the browser wars never really ended. They just passed to a new phase, I&#039;m guessing the cold war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, and no.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with this. Why should we designers worry about our themes&#8217; compatibility with IE7? Isn&#8217;t it their job to deal with backwards compatibility? (provided that our code is supposed to work)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite sure now, the browser wars never really ended. They just passed to a new phase, I&#8217;m guessing the cold war.</p>
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		<title>By: Are WordPress Themes and Plugins Ready for Internet Explorer 7? &#171; Lorelle on WordPress</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-50775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Are WordPress Themes and Plugins Ready for Internet Explorer 7? &#171; Lorelle on WordPress]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-50775</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] The article continues with a list of some of the changes and new features IE7 will have, which include updated CSS behavior and fixes of many IE browser hacks. As I wrote recently in &#8220;Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7&#8243;, IE7 will ignore your old browser hacks, but how it responds to all CSS instructions is still a little less clear. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The article continues with a list of some of the changes and new features IE7 will have, which include updated CSS behavior and fixes of many IE browser hacks. As I wrote recently in &#8220;Getting Your Blog Ready for Internet Explorer 7&#8243;, IE7 will ignore your old browser hacks, but how it responds to all CSS instructions is still a little less clear. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zooplah</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-49507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zooplah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, my blog works far better in IE7RC than in IE6.  In IE6, it&#039;s a total mess and I&#039;m currently disabling stylesheets through JavaScript so that it will at least be readable.

Not that it working in IE6 really matters that much anyway.  I&#039;m not making money from it or anything, so visitors will just have to accept whatever capricious decisions I make concerning it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, my blog works far better in IE7RC than in IE6.  In IE6, it&#8217;s a total mess and I&#8217;m currently disabling stylesheets through JavaScript so that it will at least be readable.</p>
<p>Not that it working in IE6 really matters that much anyway.  I&#8217;m not making money from it or anything, so visitors will just have to accept whatever capricious decisions I make concerning it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/getting-your-blog-ready-for-internet-explorer-7/#comment-48306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really you can never completely abandon the hacks. Even after the 2 to 5 years there will still be people who use antique browsers. Because of this post I glanced at my browser statistics and I was shocked to find that someone had IE 3 and Netscape 3 still.  IE5 and 5.5 (which are about 8 years old) are still used frequently enough that commercial sites have to work for them.  While I get 10 times as many visitors with IE 6 than I do with either IE 5 and 5.5, with trends the way they are we have a good 4 - 5 years before we can even consider removing hacks. Of course this is assuming we aren&#039;t forced to create more and more as newer browsers can do more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really you can never completely abandon the hacks. Even after the 2 to 5 years there will still be people who use antique browsers. Because of this post I glanced at my browser statistics and I was shocked to find that someone had IE 3 and Netscape 3 still.  IE5 and 5.5 (which are about 8 years old) are still used frequently enough that commercial sites have to work for them.  While I get 10 times as many visitors with IE 6 than I do with either IE 5 and 5.5, with trends the way they are we have a good 4 &#8211; 5 years before we can even consider removing hacks. Of course this is assuming we aren&#8217;t forced to create more and more as newer browsers can do more.</p>
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