Comments on: Tags and Tagging in WordPress http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/ Helping you learn more and do more with WordPress Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:53:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Dr. Jim Collier’s Insights & Strategies » Blog Archive » Do You Tag Yourself? http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-902075 Dr. Jim Collier’s Insights & Strategies » Blog Archive » Do You Tag Yourself? Fri, 16 May 2008 19:27:58 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-902075 [...] everyone back on the tag versus categories versus tags bandwagon, have you checked to make sure you are tagging [...] [...] everyone back on the tag versus categories versus tags bandwagon, have you checked to make sure you are tagging [...]

]]> By: Do You Tag Yourself? : The Blog Herald http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-902065 Do You Tag Yourself? : The Blog Herald Fri, 16 May 2008 17:28:00 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-902065 [...] everyone back on the tag versus categories versus tags bandwagon, have you checked to make sure you are tagging [...] [...] everyone back on the tag versus categories versus tags bandwagon, have you checked to make sure you are tagging [...]

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-901488 Lorelle VanFossen Fri, 09 May 2008 15:21:18 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-901488 @<a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-901475#comment-901475" rel="nofollow"> Aarne</a>: If you are using the latest version of WordPress, such actions may not result in 404 errors as WordPress now has an amazing built-in redirect with permalinks, though I recommend asking in the WordPress Support Forum to check that this applies to categories. I know it works with posts. You can create redirects, which isn't that hard, within the .htaccess file. For more help, see <a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/03/03/getting-under-the-skin-of-the-htaccess-file/" title="Getting Under the Skin of the .htaccess File" rel="nofollow">Getting Under the Skin of the .htaccess File</a> and <a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/wordpress-plugins-to-help-you-administer-your-blog/" title="WordPress Plugins To Help You Administer Your Blog" rel="nofollow">WordPress Plugins To Help You Administer Your Blog</a> for WordPress Plugins that may help with Redirects. @ Aarne:

If you are using the latest version of WordPress, such actions may not result in 404 errors as WordPress now has an amazing built-in redirect with permalinks, though I recommend asking in the WordPress Support Forum to check that this applies to categories. I know it works with posts.

You can create redirects, which isn’t that hard, within the .htaccess file. For more help, see Getting Under the Skin of the .htaccess File and WordPress Plugins To Help You Administer Your Blog for WordPress Plugins that may help with Redirects.

]]> By: Aarne http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-901475 Aarne Fri, 09 May 2008 10:07:07 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-901475 I have self-hosted blog and I would like to convert my categories to tags. As you said: <em>Adding tags to past posts manually will trigger another possible sweep by search engines. Doing it through conversion probably won’t trigger the pings to attract the search engines. Removal of your categories may create a lot of dead links (404) when searchers find your category pages in their searches until the index is updated.</em> Is there any solution available to avoid dead links? I have self-hosted blog and I would like to convert my categories to tags. As you said: Adding tags to past posts manually will trigger another possible sweep by search engines. Doing it through conversion probably won’t trigger the pings to attract the search engines. Removal of your categories may create a lot of dead links (404) when searchers find your category pages in their searches until the index is updated.

Is there any solution available to avoid dead links?

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-898014 Lorelle VanFossen Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:46:35 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-898014 @<a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-898000#comment-898000" rel="nofollow"> Nick Patterson</a>: Ah, yes, well, define "normal". :D According to WordPress.com developers, having the categories link to EVERYONE on WordPress.com with the same "tag" gets your blog posts more exposure. Since this doesn't seem to be the reality for a lot of WordPress.com users, there are a lot of complaints and requests in the WordPress.com forum to change this. I recommend you go make more noise as one of those who doesn't like this feature either. This is why I use the <a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2005/10/14/a-tagging-bookmarklet-for-wordpress-and-wordpresscom-users/" title="A Tagging Bookmarklet for WordPress and WordPress.com Users" rel="nofollow">A Tagging Bookmarklet for WordPress and WordPress.com Users</a> to create my own ON-SITE tags at the bottom of my blog posts. Once set up, it takes only a couple seconds to add manually to every blog post I write here. As for the tag clouds, I don't use them for the same reasons. If you have CSS Extras enabled, you can control the look a little more, but I agree. Wish I could offer you better suggestions but you are totally right. @ Nick Patterson:

Ah, yes, well, define “normal”. :D According to WordPress.com developers, having the categories link to EVERYONE on WordPress.com with the same “tag” gets your blog posts more exposure. Since this doesn’t seem to be the reality for a lot of WordPress.com users, there are a lot of complaints and requests in the WordPress.com forum to change this. I recommend you go make more noise as one of those who doesn’t like this feature either.

This is why I use the A Tagging Bookmarklet for WordPress and WordPress.com Users to create my own ON-SITE tags at the bottom of my blog posts. Once set up, it takes only a couple seconds to add manually to every blog post I write here.

As for the tag clouds, I don’t use them for the same reasons. If you have CSS Extras enabled, you can control the look a little more, but I agree.

Wish I could offer you better suggestions but you are totally right.

]]> By: Nick Patterson http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-898000 Nick Patterson Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:36:30 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-898000 Hi, Thanks for this very informative article, but, I'm still confused about something on Wordpress.com. When I create Categories, I would expect them to link to things categorized ON MY BLOG, but instead, they link to all kinds of other sites on Wordpress. This behavior doesn't seem consistent! Sometimes the category link will begin with wordpress.com/category, but what I want is for categories to refer to my pages - thus, categories would like to wordpress.com/category. I tried just using tags instead, but, the options for displaying tags via the widgets look awful - the tag cloud text is not balanced, a tag with a couple posts will appear way too large, and even run off the page. Any explanation for the strange categories linking behavior? Or tips for a better-looking tag display? Many thanks! /Nick Patterson Hi,

Thanks for this very informative article, but, I’m still confused about something on WordPress.com. When I create Categories, I would expect them to link to things categorized ON MY BLOG, but instead, they link to all kinds of other sites on WordPress. This behavior doesn’t seem consistent! Sometimes the category link will begin with wordpress.com/category, but what I want is for categories to refer to my pages - thus, categories would like to wordpress.com/category.

I tried just using tags instead, but, the options for displaying tags via the widgets look awful - the tag cloud text is not balanced, a tag with a couple posts will appear way too large, and even run off the page.

Any explanation for the strange categories linking behavior? Or tips for a better-looking tag display?

Many thanks! /Nick Patterson

]]> By: disciplemexico.org--Making disciples in Merida, Mexico. » Kicking the Tires of WordPress 2.5 http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-896859 disciplemexico.org--Making disciples in Merida, Mexico. » Kicking the Tires of WordPress 2.5 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:50:41 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-896859 [...] warnings that WordPress sends is that many of the new and improved features are poorly documented. Tags were a case in point a few releases back. This time the photo gallery has proven to be the [...] [...] warnings that WordPress sends is that many of the new and improved features are poorly documented. Tags were a case in point a few releases back. This time the photo gallery has proven to be the [...]

]]> By: Encephalosponge » Soaking Up Life http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893596 Encephalosponge » Soaking Up Life Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:18:37 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893596 [...] going to be assessing the structure of categories on the site. Personally, now that “tags” have been implemented in WordPress, categories seem more like a “post type” to [...] [...] going to be assessing the structure of categories on the site. Personally, now that “tags” have been implemented in WordPress, categories seem more like a “post type” to [...]

]]> By: Lorelle VanFossen http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893566 Lorelle VanFossen Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:44:33 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893566 @<a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893564" rel="nofollow"> Jim McDaniel</a>: Unless you are more clear, and have read through the recommended and related articles on the subject, I don't know what more you might need. Tags are like index words associated with your blog content. Keywords, if you will. Categories are your blog's table of contents. Tags can be links to content within your site, often called onsite tags or site search tags, and tags can also connect with offsite content on Technorati, Delicious, and other tagging and social networking services. What more could I tell or show you to help you understand better what tags are all about? @ Jim McDaniel:

Unless you are more clear, and have read through the recommended and related articles on the subject, I don’t know what more you might need.

Tags are like index words associated with your blog content. Keywords, if you will. Categories are your blog’s table of contents. Tags can be links to content within your site, often called onsite tags or site search tags, and tags can also connect with offsite content on Technorati, Delicious, and other tagging and social networking services.

What more could I tell or show you to help you understand better what tags are all about?

]]> By: Jim McDaniel http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893564 Jim McDaniel Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:51:53 +0000 https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/tags-and-tagging-in-wordpress/#comment-893564 I recently discovered your blog and find it a great help. However on this tags thing, after a first reading, I'm still lost. I'll go over it again, but even more examples would help. I recently discovered your blog and find it a great help. However on this tags thing, after a first reading, I’m still lost. I’ll go over it again, but even more examples would help.

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