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		<title>By: Do-It-Yourself Search Engine Optimization Guide &#171; inkgraphy</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-925200</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott Million</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-920880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the heads up, I&#039;m optimizing my search engine marketing campaign and I also want to try these few more steps you have mentioned as to have tested it myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up, I&#8217;m optimizing my search engine marketing campaign and I also want to try these few more steps you have mentioned as to have tested it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-37466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then you are on the right track. Focus on what your clients need on your website, and pack it with the keywords that service that need, that people will search for, and you will do fine. After all, it isn&#039;t UK page rank you need to monitor, it&#039;s your customer&#039;s needs. Ask them. 

Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/the-question-what-do-you-love-and-hate-about-a-website/&quot; title=&quot;What Do You Love and Hate About a Website?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Question: What Do You Love and Hate About a Website?&lt;/a&gt;. A UK news show asked this question and got amazing responses. That will help you better than monitoring UK search engines.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out and what you learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you are on the right track. Focus on what your clients need on your website, and pack it with the keywords that service that need, that people will search for, and you will do fine. After all, it isn&#8217;t UK page rank you need to monitor, it&#8217;s your customer&#8217;s needs. Ask them. </p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/the-question-what-do-you-love-and-hate-about-a-website/" title="What Do You Love and Hate About a Website?" rel="nofollow">The Question: What Do You Love and Hate About a Website?</a>. A UK news show asked this question and got amazing responses. That will help you better than monitoring UK search engines.</p>
<p>Good luck and let us know how it turns out and what you learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin McPhie</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-37459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin McPhie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Lorelle I will try and do it myself because I would like the experience but also our work is not reliant on the net We use it more to keep in contact with current clients rather than to attract more, Thanks for your help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lorelle I will try and do it myself because I would like the experience but also our work is not reliant on the net We use it more to keep in contact with current clients rather than to attract more, Thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-37362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Besides the unreliable but &quot;good enough&quot; test from above, I recommend you read &lt;a href=&quot;http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/01/15/dyi-search-engine-optimization/&quot; title=&quot;Do-It-Yourself Search Engine Optimization Guide&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Do-It-Yourself Search Engine Optimization Guide&lt;/a&gt; and use the tools provided in that article to help test your site.

Honestly, if you are serious about SEO in the UK, then hire an expert in UK search engines, SEO, and web development. Don&#039;t do it yourself because that is highly specialized. If you want it done right, then pay for someone whose mortgage relies on getting it right the first time. Otherwise, write keyword rich content and let web nature take care of itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides the unreliable but &#8220;good enough&#8221; test from above, I recommend you read <a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/01/15/dyi-search-engine-optimization/" title="Do-It-Yourself Search Engine Optimization Guide" rel="nofollow">Do-It-Yourself Search Engine Optimization Guide</a> and use the tools provided in that article to help test your site.</p>
<p>Honestly, if you are serious about SEO in the UK, then hire an expert in UK search engines, SEO, and web development. Don&#8217;t do it yourself because that is highly specialized. If you want it done right, then pay for someone whose mortgage relies on getting it right the first time. Otherwise, write keyword rich content and let web nature take care of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin McPhie</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-37283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin McPhie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should add that I am only really interested in results from the UK as we are a UK based charity and cannot help anyone outside of Scotland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that I am only really interested in results from the UK as we are a UK based charity and cannot help anyone outside of Scotland</p>
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		<title>By: Martin McPhie</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-37269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin McPhie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently been looking into seo and I was hoping you could tell me the best way to test my sites ranking and position. It would be easy if we turned up in even the top 100 but at the moment we don&#039;t. I am very keen on improving our rankings and will certainly be trying the techniques listed on this page, but I would like a dependable method of testing my results. I don&#039;t see the point of starting to add or change things if the results of these changes cannot be reliably tested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently been looking into seo and I was hoping you could tell me the best way to test my sites ranking and position. It would be easy if we turned up in even the top 100 but at the moment we don&#8217;t. I am very keen on improving our rankings and will certainly be trying the techniques listed on this page, but I would like a dependable method of testing my results. I don&#8217;t see the point of starting to add or change things if the results of these changes cannot be reliably tested.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle on WordPress &#187; Improving Your SEO Standards with Wordpress.com Blogs</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-2844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle on WordPress &#187; Improving Your SEO Standards with Wordpress.com Blogs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I recently wrote about some simple techniques to help your search engine results ranking, and these techniques can easily be done by Wordpress.com users, so let&#8217;s start there. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I recently wrote about some simple techniques to help your search engine results ranking, and these techniques can easily be done by WordPress.com users, so let&#8217;s start there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle VanFossen</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-2313</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorelle VanFossen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, Mike. My &quot;search engine placement&quot; went through the roof, though that isn&#039;t a very scientific finding. ;-) Excellent point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Mike. My &#8220;search engine placement&#8221; went through the roof, though that isn&#8217;t a very scientific finding. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Excellent point.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
		<link>http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/02/08/testing-search-engine-page-ranking-techniques/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lorelle: Hmm, well are you saying &quot;PageRank went through the roof&quot; or &quot;My search engine placement went through the roof&quot;?  Both are entirely different things and, as detailed in my tests, have very little (if any) effect on each other.  PageRank is merely an indicator of the magnitude of people who link to you (quantity combined with quality).  &quot;Search engine placement&quot; is how high you show up in searches for particular things.  As shown in my tests, a PageRank 5 person can show up higher than a PageRank 8 person, even though the 8 is supposed about 1000 times greater in terms of PR.

I think what you are probably talking about is &quot;search engine placement&quot; and it likely wasn&#039;t the removal of tables which helped you... it was the addition of semantic code.  Semantic code + tables would have probably had the same effect.  Don&#039;t get me wrong... I don&#039;t like tables.  I just don&#039;t think Google cares about them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorelle: Hmm, well are you saying &#8220;PageRank went through the roof&#8221; or &#8220;My search engine placement went through the roof&#8221;?  Both are entirely different things and, as detailed in my tests, have very little (if any) effect on each other.  PageRank is merely an indicator of the magnitude of people who link to you (quantity combined with quality).  &#8220;Search engine placement&#8221; is how high you show up in searches for particular things.  As shown in my tests, a PageRank 5 person can show up higher than a PageRank 8 person, even though the 8 is supposed about 1000 times greater in terms of PR.</p>
<p>I think what you are probably talking about is &#8220;search engine placement&#8221; and it likely wasn&#8217;t the removal of tables which helped you&#8230; it was the addition of semantic code.  Semantic code + tables would have probably had the same effect.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230; I don&#8217;t like tables.  I just don&#8217;t think Google cares about them.</p>
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